SNZ adopt new rulings engine size increases

[admin]

As of next season
Rules shall now read

Kiwi Kids Solo Machine specifications
Engine: Motorcycle engine shall not exceed:
200cc 8-11 years; 250cc 12-15 years

Wheels and Tyres
All spokes must be tight.
Rear and Front wheel size optional. Not to exceed; front wheel rim 585mm (23”), rear wheel rim 480mm (19”).
Rear tyre shall not exceed 110mm wide and 9mm tread depth.

and a new rule that has been taken for granted but never formally written in the book.

Riders may change up to their riding gear only and then not permitted to change gear thereafter (i.e. change down)

[ajak]

why i dont nesserceraly disagree with this rule change one would have to wonder in the way it has been implemented at such short notice without consultation with the people it affects.If the junior classes were offically reconized as a competition class and not a demonstration class this rule change would of had to be put through the correct procedure ie: remits. if the 250cc bikes are not to run in their own class surely there would of been a period of maybe the following season to allow present competiotors to accomodate for this change,not 3 or 4 months prior to the season start. Does this new rule mean a 8year old kid starting out on a 15hp 200cc will be racing a 15year old on a 45hp laydown jawa 250, think about it

[admin]

Yes but if the club is responsible enough which i know yours is they would keep the two classes separate. Or at least the experienced riders separate from the novices.
Plus the engine sizes are maximums there's no need saying everyone must change to these sizes.
The rule change was put though as a remit but as you say as it is only a regional class it was decided on by the directors.

The way i see this ruling is that it is going to take a few seasons for things to settle down and probably a few more rule changes to get the classes right, but if we dont do something weve got a speedway bike specifically built for juniors that cant be ridden on our tracks. And all that is doing is hold our junior riders back even more.

[ajak]

thanks for your reply. yes i agree in an ideal situation the clubs would run 2 seperate classes but the junior classes are thin on the ground anyway and it worries me that this could spread thinner the numbers we have currently. Yes the 250 class is a great intermediate class that will benefit some riders in their transistion to the 500 class. SNZ veiw the junior solos as a demonstration class and they are not deemed to be racing isnt it time this was reveiwed. As i mentioned in my first posting our main bone of contention is the the way the ruling was implemented without a satisfactory consultation process and lack of detail, this can only risk causing dissention amongst those involved which is the last thing the class needs.

[admin]

An intermediate class was asked for a year ago, but SNZ dismissed it and commented that they didn't want another class. And I agree with you the demonstration class should be scrapped. The u15 Aussies are in Poland at the moment racing for the u16 world championship.
We on the other hand are supposed to be doing 4 laps without a chequered flag.
Unfortunately Speedway and dissention go hand in hand in NZ, perhaps we shouldn't be affilliated to a stockcar body.

[admin]

This is what i saw at cardiff before the meeting 1 race on 250cc's then 1 race on 500cc's all under 15

CARDIFF 2007

DANIEL GREENWOOD (AGED 14) UNDER 15'S 500 WINNER

Photo by www.mike-patrick.com

[admin]

Another example of whats happening overseas...... Marc Owen is 12........................

Last night, the Norfolk Arena hosted a 250cc Exhibition Match between the Bombers and the Spitfires, which left the locals saying "That was simply awesome" as they were leaving the stadium.

The Bombers had their backs to the wall against a very powerful Spitfires quartet, as a result of their No 1 and captain Matthew Allitt being the victim of a road accident earlier in the week, leaving him with a badly broken leg.
The result was taken right down to a last heat decider, with both sets of riders showing a maturity way beyond their years.
I for one hope that this becomes a regular thing at tracks around the country, then just maybe, we can witness the start of another British World Champion.

Well done lads, you were all brilliant.

BOMBERS 16
1. No Rider
2. Jake Knight FN, 3, 3, N = 6
3. Ashley Morris F, FX, N = 0
4. Rhys Naylor 1, 3, 2, 2*, 2 = 10 + 1
SPITFIRES 20
1. Marc Owen 3, 3, 3 = 9
2. Brendan Worville 2*, 1, 1 = 4 + 1
3. Adam Portwood 1*, 1*, 0 = 2 + 2
4. Dale Lamb 2, 2, 1 = 5

1. Owen, Worville, Naylor, Knight (FN) 1-5 1-5 72.62
2. Naylor, Lamb, Portwood, Morris (Fell) 3-3 4-8 77.02
3. Knight, Lamb, Portwood, Morris (FX) 3-3 7-11 74.00
4. Owen, Naylor, Worville, Morris (NS) 2-4 9-15 71.59
5. Knight, Naylor, Lamb, Portwood 5-1 14-16 73.71
6. Owen, Naylor, Worville, Knight (NS) 2-4 16-20 70.18

[admin]

Here's the British Rules regarding engine sizes

You can ride a 250 from your 11th birthday up to and including the year in which your 16th birthday falls. ie Under 15 years of age on Jan 1st.

But you can upgrade from a 125 at age 9 and 10 to a 250 only upon satisfactory completion of an SCB/BSPA assesment course.

To compete in an official SCB/BSPA under 15's meeting /Academy match/Training session the 250 must be a Laydown JAWA engine.

[Lee]

It is my opinion that Junior rules should be standardised throughout the world.

Although that is unlikely to happen with the Scandanavians persisting with the 80cc two strokes.

NZ and Aust really should be looking along similar lines, surely if both countries had the same rules we could expand competition.

The junior scene in OZ is thriving at the moment, with riders switching to the 350's at 14, some of them stay on the 125's and are doubling up on the 350's and thsoe that have turned sixteen and started on the 500's are generally doing very well so this system is working.

First fully blown 350cc meeting for Under 16's will be at Tamworth on 15th September.

[Lee]

Current engine size rules for Australia

125cc - 7-16 (NSW 9-16) - Junior tracks only
250 - 13 - 16 - Junior tracks only (hardly anyone involved)
350's 14 - 16 (Can do demos three months prior to 14th birthday)
500's - Demos three months prior to 16th birthday

So far the switch from 125 to 350 and 350 to 500 is working very well. The 350 has just about killed off 250 racing.

[LesTomiam]

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